CONGRATULATIONS!

Thank you very much for taking part in LIA CAR Competition 2010.

After going through a tight adjudicating process, marked by heated arguments among the members of the board of the judges, finally, three papers emerged as the winners.

Below are the winners of LIA CAR Competition 2010 and bring home the laptop and netbooks:

First Prize Winner

Julius Martinez
Sans the Ink Blots
Saint John’s Catholic School, BSD City, South Tangerang

Second Prize Winner

Ferry Hidayat
Stepping Up Intermediate-Level Quiet Students’ Talking by Creating a Democratic Classroom
LBPP LIA Ciputat

Third Prize Winner

Maria Florentine Palar
Improving Young Learners’ Reading Ability Through Cooperative Learning
LBPP-LIA Pakuan Bogor

Consolation Prizes

Notes: All prizes will be sent to the winners’ institution addresses.

Board of Judges:

Gloria Kismadi (Language Consultant), Anneke Senduk (Language Consultant), Riani Ingkiriwang (Language Consultant), Luz Ismail (Language Consultant), Angela NP (Quality Control, LBPP LIA), Nelmi Nasution (Quality Control, LBPP LIA), Abdul Muis (Quality Control, LBPP LIA), Suyono (Quality Control, LBPP LIA), Ali Aljufri (Teacher Training & Development, LBPP LIA), Toto Endroyono  (Joint Operations, LBPP LIA), and Luciana (Atmajaya, Catholic University)

Secretariat:

Quality Control Sub-Directorate, LBPP LIA Pusat, 5th Floor, Jl. Pengadegan Timur Raya No. 3,
Pancoran Jakarta Selatan, 12770.

Telephone: 021-7943526 ext. 529, Fax: 7948702

Contact Persons:

Abdul Muis (muis.abd_lia@yahoo.com)              Nelmi Nasution (nenajogi@yahoo.com)

Suyono (suyonokanan@liaconferences.com)    Toto Endroyono (zetgo67@yahoo.com)

See CALL FOR PAPERS

The Refresher Course for Mentors, hosted by TTD, Dec. 20-22, is aimed to remind, reinforce and rekindle the roles AOO play in developing, assisting, and inspiring (just to name a few) …the teachers.

PROGRAM RUNDOWN

Date        :  20-22 December 2010

Venue     :  Auditorium LBPP LIA PRAMUKA

DAY1 (Monday, 20 December)

08.00 – 08.30      Registration + Morning Coffee

08.30 – 09.00      Opening by TTD Manager

09.00 – 10.00      Interpersonal Skills 1 by Stefanus Honorus

10.00 – 10.30       Coffee Break

10.30 – 12.00       Interpersonal Skills 2 by Stefanus Honorus

12.00 – 13.00       Lunch Break

13.00 – 14.00       Updates

DAY 2 (Tuesday, 21 December)

08.00 – 08.30      Registration + Morning Coffee

08.30 – 10.00      Sharing Sessions

10.00 – 10.30      Coffee Break

10.30 – 12.00      Little Things from TTD

12.00 – 13.00      Lunch Break

13.00 – 14.00      Practice: Analyzing the Techniques

DAY 3 (Wednesday, 22 December)

08.00 – 08.30      Registration + Morning Coffee

08.30 – 10.00      Updates from Academic Director

10.00 – 10.30      Coffee Break

10.30 – 12.00      Rank System (Kepangkatan)

12.00 – 13.00      Lunch Break

13.00 – 14.00      Q&A on Rank System (Kepangkatan)

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Compilation of Teaching Techniques (PDF)

January 25, 2012

“A Little Something from IALF”

by: Nusanta Indrawati

&

“Teaching Writing for IELTS”

by: Shinta Harini

Venue: Seminar Room, 6th Floor, LBPP-LIA Pramuka

Investment*

• IIDR  75.000/person

*to be transferred to LBPP LIA Pusat account no 1013526016 at Bank Bukopin

We encourage as many participants as possible from each branch. The participants will get:
1.    Snacks
2.   Letter of attendance from TTD

*e-mail the scanned/photo of payment receipt to TTD at teachertraining@liaconferences.com

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WSS updates:

Creative Writing

Jakarta, 30 November 2011

In this sharing session Ms. Devina Mariskova shared her knowledge about creative writing per se fiction writing. There are three aspects to be considered in writing the fiction stories; they are characters, conflict and premise. The first aspect is characters. The readers will find a story interesting when the characters are different from the ordinary people. They should be either exceptionally good or bad.  They should be able to solve all the problems no matter how difficult the situation is. In short, they should be the hero or the story. The writers should be able to completely describe the characters from appearance (physiological dimension), the social status (sociological dimension) and personality traits (psychological dimension). The second aspect is conflict. The conflict occurs when the main character has a main goal where in the middle of the way he or she faces opposition. There is also a constant adversary between the protagonist and the antagonist. The depiction of the story should create a bonding between the two different characters. Finally, the premise — it is the statement of what happens to the characters as the result of the conflict.

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Convergent and Divergent Thinking

Jakarta, October 26, 2011

The Sharing Session started with Pak Sonny with his presentation titled “Convergent and Divergent Thinking”. The aim of convergent and divergent thinking is to make students to be able to solve problems, think creatively and critically, make decisions, generate new ideas, analyze information and plan for the future. Basically, whether one has either convergent or divergent thinking usually depends on their brain dominance inventory–right brain thinking or left brain thinking. Convergent thinking manifests itself in the questions which require students to answer questions by putting facts together and constructing an answer; divergent thinking takes the form as the questions which are thought-provoking and require more than one acceptable answer. Divergent questions might create new problem situations and require students synthesize ideas and construct a meaningful solution.

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Drawing Tips for Classroom Use

For the second session, Ibu Yudi presented a sharing titled “Drawing Tips for Classroom Use”. As an expert in teaching English for young learners, Ibu Yudi shared her knowledge and skills to make illustration by using simple scribbles and squiggles. As simple as they might get, they could depict emotions,ideas and meanings clearly. The key to success in drawing is exercise, so we spent the whole sessions learning how to practice making straight lines, curls, curves and circles correctly. The outcome was awesome that from combining those scribbles we could make drawings that can convey emotions.

P.S.: We had to interrupt this session because TTD tried to make a good use of this opportunity to give out our farewell gifts to the two presenters, as they are retiring.

Using Windows Movie Maker and Videos as Teaching Aids

Jakarta, February 2 2011

Audio visuals or videos have always been interesting to be used as teaching aids in classes. Therefore, Ghitta Hayati from LIA Kalimalang presented how to create videos using the simple video software, Windows Movie Maker. The reasons why Ghitta chose Windows Movie Maker because of its availability in everyone’s computer and its user friendliness.

Ghitta started the presentation by showing the samples of videos she had worked on. Then she went on with the workshop creating the video clips with the twenty participants at the computer laboratory of LIA Pramuka. Not only creating videos, Ghitta also taught participants how to upload the videos to Youtube and how to burn the videos into DVD format to be available for used by means of DVD player. The video Ghitta has uploaded at Youtube can be seen by following this link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFjcnHVpMto

Drilling Techniques for EC Classes.

Jakarta, November 10 2010

In this Wednesday Sharing Session, Ms. Pranawangsih Yuniarti, a.k.a. Wawa presented what she had attended from the previous Pearson Day. The sharing session covered the reading techniques for children classes. In this session Wawa focused the drilling techniques for vocabulary, grammar, functions and others.
There were some interesting features that she presented regarding teaching English for Children. Firstly, teaching English for children should be fun since it is the first time children encounter the language. Therefore the enjoyment that they get will determine their attitudes in learning English in the future. Secondly, teaching English to children means teaching them language components for future uses, not for immediate uses. Thirdly, drilling plays an important role in the children’s longer retention of the language components. Next, Wawa demonstrated some fun ways of drilling techniques for vocabulary, such as Pass the Flashcards, Touch the Balloon, Sweep It away, The Journey of a Tissue Paper, Ping pong and Mysterious Envelope. Then, Wawa also demonstrated other fun ways of drilling techniques for grammar, functions and others, such as  Give Me Five, Dancing Crazy, First Come-First Served, Active Reading and Kungfu Moves.
All in all the presentation was interesting and the activities were a lot of fun for the participants. It is always fun to join WSS.

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Webquest: The Prequel

Jakarta, October 27 2010

Following the materials covered in the “In-Service Training”, Selestin Zaenuddin presented a prequel of how to create on line lessons using Webquest. WebQuest is an inquiry-oriented lesson format in which most or all the information that learners work with comes from the web. These can be created using various programs, including a simple word processing document that includes links to websites.

Using Webquest not only a teacher can apply the four skills, but also implement other cognitive aspects, namely Bloom’s Taxonomy, Cooperative Learning, Multiple Intelligences and Real Life Activities.

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The Basics of Blogging Using Blogger

Jakarta, August 25 2010

The August 25′s Wednesday Sharing Session featured Ms. Sitha Damayanti for her presentation the basics of blogging using blogger. The two hour session was held in the computer laboratory of the 5th floor of LBPP LIA Pramuka. Here the Ms. Sitha Damayanti shared with the participants how to create a screen name, a blog title and and a blog address.

The sharing session was fun and and interesting since the participants can apply the steps of creating the blogs directly by using the computers in the lab.

Songs: The Magic Tonic of Teaching EFL

Jakarta, August 11 2010

People love songs, and they can be used as a tonic for teaching EFL. Therefore, Mr. Toto Endroyono shared his ideas on how to incorporate songs into the class activities. In this session we were exposed to kinds of songs and which songs suitable to which lessons. There were interesting activities ranging from singing together, filling in the blank lyrics and sequencing pictures to match the song lyrics.

Not only having fun singing together, the participants could also get the idea of incorporating songs into the lessons.  The songs and activities are suitable for students from children classes to adult classes. Participants could also see the list of songs with details to match the lessons.

Teaching Language Skills to Young Learners Through Cooperative Learning

Jakarta, July 28, 2010

This Wednesday Sharing Session featured a presentation from Ms. Maria Florentine Palar, a teacher from LIA Bogor Pakuan. The two-hour session discussed the  implementation of  Cooperative Learning activities in EC classes. Cooperative Learning is a set of instructional methods in which students work in  a small mixed-ability learning teams. In the presentation, it was stated that  Cooperative Learning was very beneficial both for high achievers and low achievers since the former could enhance their sense of belonging, acceptance and caring while the latter would have a chance to receive more help, observe the process of the high achievers go about learning, feel more motivated to try and boost their self esteem.

Some of the activities presented were Round Robin, Numbered Heads, Jigsaw Reading, Think Pair Share, Autobio Poem, Card Game and Scrap book. We had a lot of fun and we enjoyed the session very much.

WSS on World Englishes

Jakarta, December 2 2009.

In relation to the upcoming LIA International Conference , Teacher Training and Development sub Directorate of LBPP LIA conducted a sharing program on World Englishes. The Sharing Program featured four presenters carrying out the topics related to world Englishes. The featured presenters were Jusnidar Rahman, Endang Gultom, Sonny Soentanto, and Gloria Kismadi. They represented the well-known experts of World Englishes such as Andy Kirkpatric,  David Crystal, Jennifer Jenkinsz, Larry Smith, and Yamuna Kachru. The topics discussed were:

English as a Global Language (David Crystal), presented by Jusnidar Rachman
World Englishes (Andy Kirkpatrick), presented by Endang Gultom
World English vs. World Englishes (Jennifer Jenkinsz), presented by Sonny Soentanto
Cultures, Contexts, and World Englishes (Yamuna Kachru and Larry Smith), presented by Gloria Kismadi

WSS in flash

RATIONALE

LIA is celebrating its 50 years of teaching English amidst considerations that are being raised in the current context of English language teaching. LIA started out with Audio-Lingual teaching practices, which, at that time, seemed to be the most common approach. In the process, as new methods and practices came about, LIA has explored and adopted new teaching practices to optimize language learning.

Today, English has become the language for communication spoken by native and non-native speakers worldwide. The tremendous demands for the use of English in the 21st century have forced language teaching experts and professionals to look into other concerns besides language teaching and learning alone but language teaching and learning in different settings, cultures, and linguistic backgrounds. The profession of English language teaching today has to examine the pros and cons that deal with considerations of World English or World Englishes, English as an International Language, and acceptable standards that should be applied.

To keep abreast with what language teaching experts are concerned with, LIA International Conference 2010 hopes to provide a platform for language teaching experts and professionals to bring in and share new insights, current considerations and problems that impact on language teaching and learning in all of its aspects: linguistic, social, and cultural. LIA hopes that with this kind of dialog, the conference will bring about a better understanding and greater tolerance and acceptance of the differences in communication among world cultures.

AIMS

LIA International Conference 2010 has the following aims:

- To deepen the understanding of current issues related to English Language teaching and learning in today’s world:
World English and World Englishes
Language Standards and Standard Language

- To provide a forum where ELT practitioners and experts share new insights and experience in ELT amidst the      above streams

- To explore the impacts of the above on teaching beliefs and classroom practices

- To look into Indonesia’s position in ELT with regard to the above issues

AUDIENCE

The conference will draw together:

- Experts, teachers, teacher trainers, materials & test writers, curriculum designers, school administrators, student teachers, stake holders and other interested parties in the area of English Language Teaching.

- Educators and sponsors interested in supporting language education.

- ELT related institutions (e.g. book publishers, distributors and representatives).

SPEAKERS

Traditionally, LIA has been able to bring in renowned and reputable personalities as featured speakers. LIA International Conference 2010 will attempt to maintain this proud tradition. Invited speakers representing world cultures – experts, researchers, professionals – taking part in the conference, among others, include:

Andy Kirkpatrick, Hongkong	Duong Thi Hoang Oanh, Vietnam	Willy Renandya, Singapore	Joseph Foley, Thailand
Alastair Pennycook, Australia	Chan Yue Weng, Singapore	Jeon Jihyeon, South Korea	Gloria Kismadi, Indonesia
Marc Helgesen, Japan

PROGRAM OVERVIEW

The conference will be held for two and half consecutive days. Plenary and split plenary sessions will be conducted each day prior to or followed by concurrent sessions.

Highlights of LIA International Conference include:

- Culture Class is a concurrent session in the form of cultural sessions from participating countries (represented by participants) taking place outdoors in the gardens of the hotel’s vast landscape.

- Conference World Festival, a dinner party by the beach, highlighted by unique Balinese Gong musical performance as well as world cultural performance from representatives of participating regions in Indonesia and other countries

Click here to view Program Rundown (pdf)

TOPIC AREAS

Topic areas focus on the implications of World Englishes in the teaching and learning of English in different countries with various cultural background. The conference committee wishes to raise related issues such as teacher development, curriculum, syllabus and materials development, assessment, learners’ cultural background, language teaching approaches and methodologies.

Download prompts for topic areas.

Click here to see PROCEEDINGS GUIDELINES

TYPES OF CONCURRENT SESSIONS

1. Demonstrations

2. Dynamic Circular Discussions

3. Papers

4. Workshops

5. Culture class

View Types of Concurrent Sessions

In relation to the upcoming LIA International Conference , Teacher Training and Development sub Directorate of LBPP LIA conducted a sharing program on World Englishes. The Sharing Program featured four presenters carrying out the topics related to world Englishes. The featured presenters were Jusnidar Rahman, Endang Gultom, Sonny Soentanto, and Gloria Kismadi. They represented the well-known experts of World Englishes such as Andy Kirkpatric,  David Crystal, Jennifer Jenkinsz, Larry Smith, and Yamuna Kachru. The topics discussed were:

• English as a Global Language (David Crystal), presented by Jusnidar Rachman
• World Englishes (Andy Kirkpatrick), presented by Endang Gultom
• World English vs. World Englishes (Jennifer Jenkinsz), presented by Sonny Soentanto]
• Cultures, Contexts, and World Englishes (Yamuna Kachru and Larry Smith), presented by Gloria Kismadi

08:00-09:00    Registration

09:00-10:00    Plenary 1

10:00-10:30    Coffee Break

10:30-11:30    Plenary 2 & Plenary 3

12:00-13:00    Lunch

13:00-14:30    Plenary 4 & Plenary 5

14:30-15:00    Coffee Break

15:00-16:00    Plenary 6 & Plenary 7

16:00-17:00    Plenary 8 & Plenary 9

17:00-18:30    Free Program

18:30-21:00    Conference World Festival Dinner

Dinner, Balinese Dance and Banjar (live Balinese traditional music accompanying dance performance), Cultural Exchange Performance

DAY 2
Thursday, 29 April, 2010

08:30-09:30    Paper & Demo

09:45-10:45    Paper & Demo

10:45-11:00    Coffee Break

11:00-12:00    Paper & Demo

12:00-13:00    Lunch

13:00-14:00    Dynamic Circular Discussion

14:00-14:30    Coffee Break

15:00-16:00    Dynamic Circular Discussion

DAY 3
Friday, 30 April, 2010

08:30-09:30    Plenary 12 + 13

09:30-10:00    Free Program: Door Prize/ Fillers/ Performances

10:00-10:30    Coffee Break

10:30-12:00    Debate

12:00-13:00    Closing + Lunch

Note: (This is subject to change)

Atun: In my opinion, each language has their variety

Roundtable Moderator: That is true, Phan Quang.  David Crystal’s study showed that there are 4 times more non-native users of English than native users.

Chen Xiaoju 2: Hello, nice to meet you all. My opinion is to teach standard world English. The major problem is to get to know the authentic English in a non-English environment. Sometimes we have to create our ”Englishes” which bear a lot of ”Local” features.

Phan A Quang : I couldnot agree more

Dzung: I had experiences with English of people from different countries. So I ask my students to expose themselves to various English as much as possible by direct contacts, travelling, cable TV, internet. Standard English will become useless if people can’t understand you.

hafilia ismanto: The idea of World englishes, when I talk to my students, is that lots of people in the world use Englsih and it doesn’t have to be perfect.It encourages & motivates students use the language even if they do not master it well.

Roundtable Moderator: I think that it is important to teach the culture of the English speaking countries so that students have an idea of why certain features and forms of the language exist.  What do you all think?

Roundtable Moderator 2: Good point, hafilia ismanto!

Phan A Quang : agreed

hafilia ismanto: Agree w/ moderator 2. My experience has taught me that..we may speak the language but still think like locals.  So…it’s kind of speak globally…think locally.

Roundtable Moderator: It seems from our poll that 68% of you think we should focus on a standard English rather than on World Englishes.

Chen Xiaoju 2: English slang and idioms  have become the most difficult part of the language. It seems that we can never fully understand them.

Dzung: I agree. I often push my students to travel to surrounding countries to see how English is used there and how their English is understood.

Atun: I agree that we also have to introduce the culture if the English speaking countries since language and culture can’t be separated.

Phan A Quang : learning about the cultures of the English speaking country is a must

Chen Xiaoju 2: I agree. We should try to teach/speak standard English.

Leena: hello everyone… i am tourism teacher… in this area the english is commonly using as commucation tools, do not take attention much in how good english actually…

Phan A Quang : as language is affected and valued by cultures

Phan A Quang : as language is affected and valued by cultures

Dzung: Quang, it’s not only a must. to me, it’s also fun and I am trying to transfer it to my learners.

Roundtable Moderator: How do you make that transfer with your students, Dzung?

Roundtable Moderator 2: It’s also important to have a good understanding of one’s own culture, and be able to articulate well when communicating in English.  After all, communication is about two sides so it’s equally important to learn about the English cultures, as well as your own culture.

Atun: Yes. Let the students learn the standard, first so later on, yhey won’t ”get lost” when they have to produce a standard English in a certain condition.

Doan Ba Ngoc: I have some questions to all:

Roundtable Moderator 2: Pl

Doan Ba Ngoc: What is Standard English? Who speak this Standard? and Who are native speakers?

Roundtable Moderator: Please ask your questions, Doan Ba Ngoc.

Atun: I couldn’t agree more (moderator 2)

hafilia ismanto: Yes, leena…the ideais that communication takes place & messages are understood. This is very very much the case when you are teaching ESP. What do you want? Good grammar but no one understands?? Better pigeon English but everybody understands and you get what you want. But …my question…

Dzung: English is a means for my students to convey their culture and opinions to the others who can’t speak their monther tongue.

Atun: Well, Doan. I think there are British and American English as the standard.

Khuc Thien Nhi: I’m a student. I usually hear ”May I go out?” in the situation of asking for getting out of a room. But few days ago, an American said that it was wrong with native speaker. I wonder if anybody has ever been in this case.

Phan A Quang : Hi Atun. As far as I know, even in the US and Britain, there are many varieties of English

Leena: doan, ur right… nowadays in every country which english isnt their national language, the most important thing only how to transfer the idea.. when someone can understand what you means, thats the point..

Chen Xiaoju 2: To my mind, the RP (pronunciation), correct grammar, word choice are all elements of standard English.

Roundtable Moderator: Khuc Thien Nhi, I am an American and have often asked, May I go out? if I wanted to leave a room and needed permission.  What did the American say you should say instead?

Atun: Hi Khuc, did the native speaker tell you why it was wrong?

Dzung: In my opinion, Standard English is the one used in international tests such as Toefl, Toeic, IELTS.

Khuc Thien Nhi: He suggested me saying ”May I be excused?”

Roundtable Moderator: Although Chen Xiaoju, even the British do not focus on RP any more.  The BBC now allows other forms of pronunciation (Scottish, Irish, etc.)

hafilia ismanto: My question is…some people judge others by the ”level of proficiency”…so back again which level of world englishes can be acceptable? The American / British? The one who said ”May I go out” is not common for native speakers?

Roundtable Moderator 2: So is May i go out kind of learner English?  How about learners say, ”

Roundtable Moderator 2: ”

Khuc Thien Nhi: I completely agree with Leena.

Atun: Hi Phan, that’s right. But, when we talk about the standard English, we have to refer to the English which is commonly used by the native. what do you tnik?

Roundtable Moderator: Khuc Thien Nhi, then that is a matter of formal vs informal.  Both forms are correct.

Atun: I think so, RM (Roundtable Moderator)

Leena: for academic purpose dzung.. for the others purpose, communication for example.. we dont need much about standard.. or anykind of it..

Roundtable Moderator: I agree with Atun that standard English is that English used by the native speakers.

Phan A Quang : I agreed Atun.

Khuc Thien Nhi: He said ”May I go out?” was used to asking for going out of a house or a building.

Biljana: Since our students will more often speak with non-native speakers of English, I think that we should include different variants of English in our teaching, and not only stick to British or American English

Phan A Quang : Hi RM i think it should be ‘ by the mojority of native speakers’

Roundtable Moderator: Good point, Phan Quang.

Atun: Woow, Khuc..I’ve never read such information in grammar books or dictionaries.

Roundtable Moderator 2: It’s really hard to have our students learn the real standard world English.   consciouly or not, as language learners, we keep embedding our own cultural characteristics in English.

Dzung: I agree, Leena. When I was in Italy. Italian people could understand my English, but not English of English people who were working there. You know why. I have been a English learner so I know how to convey my ideas clearly. But these Englsih people at the time thought their English was native enough so if we didn’t understand, it’s our fault.

Roundtable Moderator: Atun, there are differences between formal English and informal English, between polite English and impolite English, between colloquial and non-colloquial English.  There are regional dialects and differences as well.

jusnidar 2: Do you think we, Indonesians, would have our English one day?

Dzung: Why not, Jusnidar?

hafilia ismanto: TOEIC, TOEFL, IELTS I’d like to know…from those who agreed that we focus on world Englishes…what exactly are the characteristics of ”world Englishes” that you are thinking of?

John Scacco: Re: Which version to learn, I always tell my students (or told, since I don’t have many now!) to learn one version of English.  The differences between British, American, Australian, etc. are really quite small.  With 1,000,000 words in the English vocabulary, we need to keep this as simple as possible!

Phan A Quang : I think there will be

Atun: Absolutely, RM. What makes  me wonder is the explanation sounds weird to me..Maybe, that because I haven’t read other references.

Leena 2: english doesnt belong to one country… every country can has english.. some friends have realized about it earlier jusnidar..

Roundtable Moderator: Jusnidar, there is already an Indonesian English.

Dzung: John, if I were you, I would teach all versions.

Leena 2: yes RM.. Indonesian english, american english, sngaporean english…

Phan A Quang : Hi Dzung, hopefully we can

Atun: Teach all versions, Dzung??? Don’t you think that your students will get confused??

Chen Xiaoju 2: But in China, we regard Chinese English ”Chinglish” as unacceptable. Sorry to say so.

Roundtable Moderator 2: I think for language teachers, we need to set realistic goals for our students.  Shall we make a difference for beginning ones and more advanced ones?  Like, only to get the meaning cross or, to be able to communicate appropriately and eloquently?

Phanisara: Words are powerful. Sometimes only ”standard” English might not convey exact same messages and thoughts to the local people.

Roundtable Moderator: Chen Xiaoju, that is becaue Chinglish is more bad translation than it is Chinese English.

Biljana: we cannot teach all the variants, but we should expose our students to different variants, for example when we do listening exercises

Leena 2: everybody, tell me, why we should have and focused to a standard world english? do it is really needed?

Phan A Quang : Sorry why?

Phan A Quang : Hi Leena, to some extent

Roundtable Moderator 2: Chen Xiaoju, can you open the light is Chinglish, while Time flies! Long time no see! is Chinese English.

Roundtable Moderator: Phan Quang, I am sorry I lost why you were asking why.

Dzung: Different English versions make English attractive to teach and to learn, I think. I had to teach one version only, I would quit my job as an English teacher.

Dzung: Leena, we focus on standard English to get Toefl score.

Phan A Quang : as you see, most course books are written in American and British English

Khuc Thien Nhi: And in another situation, a friend of my friend from Australia said that ”make up” was just a noun, not a verb when I used it as a verb like in dictionary, and he advised me to correct my use of it. I would like here to get more information from you all. Thanks.

Phan A Quang : sorry mistake in typing

Atun: @ RM2: the goal of teaching English is to make our students to communicative appropriately. How they get the meaning across while conversing is another subject: it’s about strategies to communicate.

Leena 2: i said it earlier dear.. that is only for academic purpose.. but how bout others field..

jusnidar 2: Ok, if that is the case, then we should promote our  learners’ confidence in using English no matter whether they have some problem areas e.g. phonology or diction that is often influenced by their cultural background. What do you think?

Biljana: Atun, I agree, the most important thing is to be able to convey a message, to be able to communicate

Roundtable Moderator: Ping (RM2), I have to disagree and say that ”Long time no see” is not just Chinese English.  We use that in the U.S. as well and it came to us from the American Indians.

Roundtable Moderator 2: Damon, I see you point.  I guess it’s just that Chinese happen to greet people the same way as American Indians in that case.

Atun: @ Leena: other field??you mean ESP??

Biljana: Yes, I know that expression, and I am not from China

Phan A Quang : I think ‘long time no see’ is common in Vietnam too esp. in informal contexts

Phanisara: I like the idea of exposure. Why not the win win situation.  Students can learn standard English and also aware of some world englishes that will be useful for them to sometimes use.

Phanisara: I like the idea of exposure. Why not the win win situation.  Students can learn standard English and also aware of some world englishes that will be useful for them to sometimes use.

Dzung: Leena, in other fields, I think vocabulary is more important. Each field has its own technical terms and I don’t think they are standard English.

hafilia ismanto: Indonesian English, american english, Phillipino English…my point exactly…all these people have been taught standard English (since the idea of world Englishes is something recent) BUT..still they speak English influenced by their culture (language, way of thinking) an all.  So, I think no matter what standard English we learn or teach, to some extend…as non native speakers of English, we eill somehow speak Indonesian/ Chinese/ Thai… English! Comments??

Roundtable Moderator: Great idea, Nina (Phanisara).

Leena 2: dzung, in vocational school english also has TOEIC. for working.. but in 14 years teaching, i have found out, that the students who can do communication in english (no matter mix with their culture grammar) can get score more than 500..

Roundtable Moderator: I believe that if a student learns standard English, they will be able to cope with other Englishes when they enounter them.

Chen Xiaoju 2: If an expression is well accepted by English native speakers, I think it has become ”standard” English no matter where it originates.

Atun: I do agree with you, RM

Roundtable Moderator 2: Good point hafilia ismanto.

Roundtable Moderator: That is true, Chen Xiaoju.  Take the example, ”My Bad” which is very poor grammar, but it now used by many Americans including President Obama.

Dzung: I already spent years teaching my students Standard English. Then the language is changing and is adapted quickly. I get tired of answering my students’ questions about why, why and why. So the idea of world Englishes came to my mind.

Leena 2: yes hafilia.. u r absolutely right.. the of teaching englis is how to encourage our students in using english confidently.. without thingking about the grammar mistake or prononciation slip..

Atun: I’m all for it, Leena & Bu Hafil..:)

Biljana: but you do need grammar for tests like TOEFL

Roundtable Moderator: Everyone, I cannot believe that our hour is just about up.  Thank you for this great discussion today.  Do you have any suggestions for our next discussion in September?  We will take August off as a break.

Phan A Quang : I strongly agree with Leena

Phanisara: Great input, Leena.  To understand Englishes is to understand other cultures.  Students gain better scores because they understand better the varities of language use.

Biljana: Blended learning

hafilia ismanto: How about mixed ability classes? I’m sure we all have had the ”FUN” handling those types of claasess & Students

jusnidar 2: What about ”Post Method Era” in September?

Atun: suggestion: what if you pick a topic which is related to the latest method of TEFL??

Roundtable Moderator 2: Our next webchat will be in September.  Have any suggestions for the topic?

Leena 2: i go with hafilia.. thats a very good topic..

Phanisara: Interesting, Biljana. ”Blended”–

Atun: another suggestion: Teaching English to Young Learners (TEYL). It’s not easy to find references on TEYL since research on this matter is still limited.

hafilia ismanto: One more thing, hope we all realize that WE ALL HAVE BEEN USING WORLD ENGLISHES during our RT discussion.  Nice to meet you all, eventhough in cyber. Hope to hear from you again soon…signing off

Roundtable Moderator: Atun, if you want the latest method you should refer to Jusindar’s suggestion of the post-method era

Biljana: we can talk about that, about using technology in the classroom

Dzung: Post- method era sounds interesting

Atun: Ok, then. Nice talking with you all…Looking forward to hearing from you..see you..

jusnidar 2: Thank you so much, we enjoyed the chat. :)

Roundtable Moderator: We will see you all on September 8th for our next Roundtable Chat.  Thank you, everyone!!!

Biljana: nice talking to you all, greetings from serbia

Phan A Quang : Thanks all. Have a nice day!

Roundtable Moderator 2: Thank you all for joining us today!  We’ll keep you tuned about our future rountable chats!

Leena 2: thank u, nice chat.. we were in world englishes.. see u all next chat… bye…

Chen Xiaoju 2: Thank you all.Bye.

Dzung: See you all again.

Biljana: Thank you all! Bye & all the best

Phanisara: Thank you.  Bye for now.  See you all next time.

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1. Teacher Development

a. What are the benefits of non-native teachers in teaching World English/ World Englishes?
b. How do language teachers enhance their professionalism in response to their own language standard?
c. How can teachers make the best use of electronic media, including English language corpora?
d. How can teachers bring in media into the classroom to encourage their students to become independent learners?
e. How do teachers equip themselves to deal with global concerns—human rights, environment, peace, etc.—in ELT?

2. Curriculum, syllabus and materials development

f. In what way do these concerns affect the curriculum and syllabus design?
g. How do these issues affect the development of instructional materials?
h. What are the implications of these issues on an international-based curriculum?
i. How does the international-based curriculum impact on teaching and learning?

3. Assessment

j. How do these issues influence assessment design?
k. What standards are used in assessing students’ language competence?
l. How do these issues impact on the implementation of alternative assessments?

4. Cultural Issues

m. How do teachers accommodate learners’ different cultural backgrounds?
n. How do teachers authenticate cultural practices in the classroom?
o. How do teachers bring out the cultures that underlie the varieties of the target
language?

5. Foreign language teaching policies

p. Which standards should be adopted in schools?
q. Which course book – locally or internationally published – should be used?

6. Approaches and methods

r. How do these issues influence the choices of approaches and methods that
promote language learning and language acquisition?
s. How do these issues impact on learners’ language acquisition?